VDC test kit slider
VDC-Banner-new_468
VDC test kit slider
sperti-banner
I suffer from depression. I started taking vitamin D and so instant improvement at 2000 iu but after a few days my need increased to 3000 iu & then 4000 iu now. Is my body building tolerance to it? Secondly my depression is chronic, can I take Vitamin D for a very prolonged period?

Asked by  shailew66333300 on April 24, 2017

Answers
  •  shailew66333300 on

    See title

    Answered by  shailew66333300 on
  •  shailew66333300 on

    I also checked my Vitamin D levels which came to around 22 ng/ml

    Answered by  shailew66333300 on
  •  IAW on

    Shailew the Q and A is not working. Hopefully before weeks end I can respond. You need a minimum of 5000iu a day!

    Answered by  IAW on
  •  shailew66333300 on

    I have started taking 5000 iu. vitamin D3. I have stopped taking antipsychotic – Risperidone 0.5 mg, given to me for depression, as it has terrible side effects. More than 2 weeks since I stopped so facing withdrawal effects. Depression is their but at a reduced intensity. Should I increase the Vitamin D3 dosage?

    Answered by  shailew66333300 on
  •  IAW on

    Shalie I am so sorry it took so long to fix the Q and A. Apparently they were in the middle of other “site” fixes when it went down and had to wait until they were done.
    Your level of 22ng/ml is very low. Believe it or not it is probably what is causing your depression. We here at the VDC recommend a minimum level of 50ng/ml to be healthy.
    The “official” upper limit to take is 10,000iu a day. It is very important to read http://www.vitamindcouncil.org/about-vitamin-d/vitamin-d-and-other-vitamins-and-minerals/.
    You certainly can take the 10,000iu and see if you feel better faster. Sometimes Vitamin D can cause symptoms because it can then cause a depletion in vitamins or minerals. The most common one is low magnesium. Magnesium deficiency symptoms can be
    •Irritability or anxiety, Nausea, Headaches, Insomnia, Fatigue, Muscle cramps/twitching, Weakness and constipation. So be careful you do not confuse the “withdrawl” with something like that.
    You can ask me as many questions as you need to and let me know how you are doing. If you have any problems, come back and tell me.
    I mostly aim to be conservative but if the 10,000iu is not enough then you may have to take more and that is not a bad thing. Eventually you may be able to take a maintenance dosage of 5000iu but you may need more. If you feel you need more than 10,000iu come back and tell me first!
    Hope you feel well soon!

    Answered by  IAW on
    •  thomasdavies1986 on

      Hi IAW,

      I read these posts with interest…I was diagnosed with a severe vitamin D deficiency and since starting supplements my symptoms have improve significantly. However, as time has progressed I have found myself needing to take more and more vitamin D to maintain my progress. I read about magnesium and i’m interested to try it, although I can’t find anything about vitamin D actually depleting magnesium levels in research articles or on any of the reputable sites on vitamin D. Do you have a source?

      Many thanks,
      Tom

      Answered by  thomasdavies1986 on
    •  IAW on

      Tom my source of information is Dr. Cannell. If he says to do something, I heed his warnings. I have read this website from its beginning. (Actually once I found it, I went back and read all 4-5 years I had missed.) Since the focus here is Vitamin D, they chose not to go into great detail here, just warn that there is a good chance you may be deficient with today’s present diets.
      I think your best bet would be to look up http://drcarolyndean.com/magnesium_miracle/ she is the guru on magnesium. She has a book and in the book maybe she sites studies that you could look up. Have you tried Pub Med?
      As for “I have found myself needing to take more and more vitamin D to maintain my progress”. What most people do not know is that you probably need more Vitamin D up front and maybe less later. Usually we promote take 5000iu a day and eventually it will get you where you need to be. If you are trying to correct a deficiency you should usually start at 8000-10,000iu a day, retest in 8 weeks and if you have made it to at least 50ng/ml, then try a maintenance dosage of 5000iu. BUT should symptoms reappear then you just need to take more. I will warn you, taking the higher amounts just may make a vitamin or mineral deficiency appear. Usually it’s magnesium BUT I just had someone and it was B2. In general I have also found people tell me when diagnosed with a D deficiency they also have a B12 deficiency.

      Answered by  IAW on
  •  shailew66333300 on

    Thank you so much. I thought I was on my own but now thanks to you I have a help of knowledgeable person. Thanks again. I will increase the dosage and will let you know later.

    Answered by  shailew66333300 on
  •  supernatralbotanicals97482200 on

    Thank you so much for your help. It will highly be useful.

    Answered by  supernatralbotanicals97482200 on
  •  shailew66333300 on

    Hi IAW, as you pointed out I am suffering from Magnesium deficiency. I feel very uneasy, nausea, unable to sleep, anxiety & headache. 3 days back I took a multivitamin with 50 mg Magnesium Oxide & I felt better. next day I continued with the multivitamin & I was OK, day before I didn’t take the multivitamin & I had severe problem so I took one. But then body started demanding more, yesterday I had to take twice. Today I bought Magnesium Hydroxide 200 mg and took it twice. I am feeling much better, symptoms have gone down. I am already taking Vitamin D 10000 iu. My confusion is there are different types of Magnesium supplements, which one should I take & how much? Thanks.

    Answered by  shailew66333300 on
  •  IAW on

    Hi Shailie!
    I don’t blame you for being confused. The “magnesium in aspartate, citrate, lactate, and chloride forms is absorbed more completely and is more bioavailable than magnesium oxide and magnesium sulfate” and also add the hydroxide to that.
    A general rule is to think anything ending in “ate” like citrate is good. Your body can absorb these better and therefore get “better use out of them”.
    I would still take the multi each day!! As for the extra magnesium try 500mg more. (Don’t even count what is in the multi.) I try and split mine up during the day with my meals. So for example if you found a “citrate” with 200mg in each pill then either take one with each meal (total 600mg per day) OR at least two meals for a total of 400mg. You will have to judge by your symptoms, how much you need.(Down the road you may need less.) The worse thing that can happen is if you get too much, you will probably get loose bowels and then you need to cut back on the amount you take. Sometimes people take magnesium before bed because it helps them sleep.

    Answered by  IAW on
  •  shailew66333300 on

    Hi IAW,
    Somehow I feel am I falling short in magnesium. My backache has gone but my nausea & slight depression with anxiety keeps coming back though it is less than earlier. After decades of depression & anxiety I do feel a bit hopeful of new therapy. I read a lot positive about this therapy & I am eager to get well. Interestingly, since I started taking Vitamin D3 & now Magnesium, Antidepressant seems to have no effect on me but I am scared to drop them, I take Sertraline 100mg. & also Clonazepam 0.5mg. I am caught between 2 therapies & want to hang in there so I am chattering a bit. Other than nausea I am fine. Unfortunately my Doctor is least helpful with my new therapy. How long will it take for my Vitamin D3 level to come above 50 ng/ml now that I have started taking 10000 iu and what do you mean by I will need less of Magnesium down the road? When will that happen? By the way I am 50 years old male & short in height 5 feet 3 inches, very optimistic person and depression has taught me to have lots of patience. Please give your valuable suggestions. Hope I am not troubling you. Thanks a lot.

    Answered by  shailew66333300 on
  •  IAW on

    At this point I do want you to know I am not a doctor or scientist. When you originally said “I have stopped taking antipsychotic – Risperidone 0.5 mg, given to me for depression”, I was a little anxious. Since you had already stopped it, I did not comment on this. What you will have to understand is I cannot comment on the other drugs (stopping) them because I am not comfortable doing so. I do understand that you are probably not getting much help from your doctor. If someone tells me they are taking an antidepressant I try and warn them of the following if it is a “Reuptake Inhibitor (SSRI)”. If the Vitamin D corrects the depression problem, then I do not know if it is possible to then end up with “serotonin syndrome”. If you do not know this is “high levels of serotonin in the body”. Symptoms include “agitation, hallucinations, fever, fast heart rate, overactive reflexes, nausea, vomiting, diarrhea, loss of coordination, and fainting”. As you can see agitation and nausea are on the list. So do they belong to the lack of magnesium or serotonin syndrome?
    Sometimes I have suggested that people stop the Vitamin D and take several days of magnesium and then try again. I am NOTsuggesting that you do this. You could go at this slower and take the 5000iu for several weeks to a month (I am guessing on the time frame) and then increase it later. Maybe it would lesson some of the symptoms.
    Weight can factor in with how much Vitamin D a person needs also. So although 10,000iu is not really a big amount, it can be for some people.
    Your levels should increase within two months. Please do not equate the level with feeling well that could be two different things and we will have to wait and see. For example if you took 10,000 for two months, retested and now had a level of 70ng/ml but you still felt slightly depressed, I might suggest trying a little more Vitamin D to see if it helps or not.
    One person said they absolutely needed the supplemental Vitamin K to make the D work for their depression. So take the co-factors listed at the link dated May 5th seriously, in your diet or in supplements.
    What I meant about the magnesium is this. For years and years you have been “D” deficient. Now you have given yourself a reasonable amount and now your body can do all sorts of good things with it. BUT it does need those co-factors so “my thoughts” are it may cause a “temporary shortage” or a “short term” increased need. After things “level” out maybe you will not need to take as much and still be OK. Only time will tell and this, “I think”, goes for other vitamins and minerals.
    If “chattering” helps, it is OK by me!

    Answered by  IAW on
  •  shailew66333300 on

    Hi IAW,
    I will keep in mind about Serotonin Syndrome. Your empathy + knowledge is more important to me it doesn’t matter whether you are a Doctor or not. And Doctors are human too & they have their own protocols. Over a period, patient tends to know more about his body than Doctor especially if he is observant. I will know whether a particular antidepressant suits me or not after 1 or 2 days but Doctor will wait till it fails. I stopped Respiridone because of terrible side effects and after a period of Vitamin D3 I felt I don’t need it. Maybe I am right, it is long time since I stopped & I am OK. Side effects of Respiridone made me put on 10 Kgs of weight & my reflexes became sluggish. I was uncomfortable balancing my two-wheeler especially on tough roads & heavy traffic. I am a fitness lover & was unable to enjoy work outs. Could not be regular. Now my reflexes have returned to normal.

    Coming to Serotonin Syndrome, I don’t think I have it as of now. I agree with your suggestion of reducing my dosage to 5000 iu & then increasing after few weeks, this body is unable to handle 10000 iu I think. Initially it could not handle even 5000 iu I had reduced to 2000 iu when it fell short I increased to 3k iu then 4k & 5k. My panic attacks have gone. Today was a better day, no severe nausea. I started taking Vitamin K 40 mcg. My body reacted very positively to Vitamin D3 after the first dose, I felt great after many years as if free of depression. Maybe once my D level comes up I will feel better. I am going to change my Doctor. I will take his guidance for tapering Sertraline. Will also inform him about Vitamin D. Please give your valuable suggestions. Thanks.

    Answered by  shailew66333300 on
  •  IAW on

    I think you have things well under control. I don’t think I have anything to add at the moment but if you have more questions, please ask. By all means let me know how you are doing!

    Answered by  IAW on

Recent Discussion

Popular Questions