I have just been diagnosed with a D level of 10.5 in the UK. I have been given 5,000 iu by my Dr to be taken every morning. One of my friends sent me this message and i wondered if you could comment and help me please. Comment on HORMONE D? You most likely will not like what I have to say on that subject as taking D3 screws up many things in the body including the liver's ability to make Vitamin A which controls copper via the production of Ceruloplasmin. Unbound copper is horrible for health and leads to disease to include poor thyroid function, copd etc… I think HORMONE D (it's a hormone, not a vitamin) is a very dangerous game. Getting magnesium levels up to 6.5-7.0 RBC will stabilize your active D and storage D levels without any other source other than sunlight daily.

Asked by  theresaewood79555300 on April 2, 2015

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  •  theresaewood79555300 on

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    Well I have no idea where your friend gets their information from? Are they a doctor or a researcher or a scientist?
    Vitamin D is a pre hormone that means it actually has to change its form in the liver in order to be utilized by the human body. When it changes form it becomes what your friend talks about as “active D”. So without the pre hormone by sunshine OR supplement, you cannot make any “active D”. Unfortunately unless you live at the equator, it is very hard to get enough Vitamin D all year round. This is why many disease rates “increase” the further away you are from the equator.
    I would listen to your doctor and take the “D”! ! !

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      He also said this : r RBC mag levels are perfect (6.5 to 7). I don’t mind being wrong, but understand I am just passing along information others have said as I am not a scientist or expert in D, Mag or anything else for that matter in the alternative health field.

      What I do know is D levels in the body require Magnesium to convert from storage D to active D. By taking D “vitamins” you stop nuke the liver from using Vitamin A, which in turn is needed to make ceruloplasmin. D supplementation can also cause a magnesium deficiency as the body will use reserves to convert to active D. When you run low on Mag, that conversion will NOT happen.

      Also, tribes that live outside all day do not come close to having the D levels a lot of doctors say you should. This equates to HAVING to supplement with D because the sun will not get you there. That is crazy thinking…..

      I used to be a HUGE D fan until I learned more. In taking larger doses of D just a few months ago and ending up on the sofa with major breathing issues, it dawned on me that I read D requires mag to convert and low mag causes breathing issues. DOH

      Anyway… no conflict here and trust me when I say I am NO EXPERT so if you care or feel the need to take something, it’s your life and your body. I am just trying to add some wisdom and remind you to check a few things before adding this to your day. That’s it…..

      I really really want to be well and I am terrified I am doing the wrong thing. Thank you so much for getting back to me

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    So I really recommend that you read http://www.vitamindcouncil.org/about-vitamin-d/vitamin-d-and-other-vitamins-and-minerals/. There are co-factors that you should really take along with your Vitamin D or make sure you are getting them in your diet. One of them is magnesium. It can be hard to get the recommended daily allowance so people are deficient in magnesium to begin with. Vitamin D needs a lot of magnesium to do its job. So you will need to take supplements for this. It is recommended that woman get about 500 mcg a day. Magnesium Oxide is NOT the best to get. Magnesium citrate or anything that ends in “ate” is great.
    So I really do not understand why your friend just did not take magnesium supplements along with the Vitamin D. You may even want to get the magnesium first and take it for about a week, then start on the “d”.
    Please do not be terrified. I take a lot of Vitamin D and magnesium supplements and I do not have any problems.
    The Vitamin D Council once posted that feeling unwell when taking Vitamin D (or getting lots of sun) means that you’re probably deficient in magnesium”.
    …Vitamin D has no known side effects. If one experiences any of the following symptoms due to supplementing with vitamin D – or with sun exposure – a magnesium deficiency is most likely the reason why:
    * irritability or anxiety
    * nausea
    * headaches
    * insomnia
    * fatigue
    * muscle cramps/twitching
    * weakness
    * constipation
    Hope this all helps!

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  •  theresaewood79555300 on

    Thank you for a wonderful reply – the penny is now dropping. mag is a cofactor and needs to be taken together with the D – yes. Do you also take Vit K2 MK7? and if so do you take it away from D? I was told not to take it with D but 8 hours later.

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  •  theresaewood79555300 on

    Reading your link, how much zinc and boron should a “newby” take? and what type of boron do you take?

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    I take a multi vitamin and then add magnesium and Vitamin K to it. If you do that you need to be very careful of the amount of “preformed A”(retinols) that might be in the multi. For an adult female you should not ingest more than 2300 a day total (might be some in your food) and for an adult male 3000. The only A that is natural is “beta carotene”. If you have a good diet you may not need any A.

    Zinc is usually 15mg and Boron is 3mg.. You may also want to consider https://www.biotechpharmacal.com/catalog/d3plus/. You would have to add Vitamin A to it if you want it and definitely more magnesium and more D IF you need a higher amount.

    No one has ever said that you need to take the Vitamin K away from anything.

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  •  theresaewood79555300 on

    The link you sent me for the D3 tablets look absolutely perfect for me. All the cofactors in it and only have to take it in one dose. What a pleasure – I feel as if I am popping tablets all day. Thank you so much. You have no idea how grateful I am. I feel more in control and I now know what I am doing. I will order the pills today. They only have them in America but at least I can buy them from here in the UK. With kindest regards, Theresa xxx

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