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I am trying to get my 25-Hydroxyvitamin D level up to 100 ng/ml to help treat leaky gut as per Dr. Steven Gundry's book "The Plant Paradox" My blood test result on 08 Aug 2017 was 62 ng/ml. Between sun exposure 8000 iu, supplements 11,000 iu and food 1000 iu I am getting about 20,000 ius per day. Is it possible to predict when I will reach my goal of 100 ng/ml if I continue with this daily intake? I am a 68 yo white male with a low bmi (!55 lbs/ 6 ft 1in). Thanks…..Don

Asked by  Stillwaters on August 17, 2017

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  •  Stillwaters on

    See title

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  •  IAW on

    I cannot predict but maybe able to narrow down or give some advice if you can answer some questions.
    How many weeks or months had you been getting the 8000iu a day and the 11,000iu a day before you had the Vitamin D test?
    What form are the supplements in: ie pill, capsule etc?
    Do you live in an area where you will be able to continue the sun exposure over winter or will you have to switch to all supplements or tanning/lamps?
    Do you in one form or another have all of the Vitamin D co-factors covered at https://www.vitamindcouncil.org/about-vitamin-d/vitamin-d-and-other-vitamins-and-minerals/?

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  •  Stillwaters on

    I have been taking the high levels of Dr Mercola’s Vitamin D (2 capsules of 5000 ius with built in 180 mcg K2 daily) for the last 2 weeks and solar vitamin D for last 6 weeks. I live in Canada so no solar vitamin D from October to March but will be in the Australian summer January through March.
    Multi vitamin plus magnesium L-Threonate capules is giving me each day:
    Vitamin A – 7500 iu
    Magnesium – 2200 mg
    Boron – 2 mg
    zinc – 15 mg

    Thanks for the quick reply. The reason I am looking for an estimate is to know when to have my D level checked again.

    Don

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  •  IAW on

    According to my “sunshine calendar”, for Canada’s latitude”, November thru February is basically no solar Vitamin D. More importantly for Sept, Oct, Mar, Apr and May, you have to increase your exposure time to get the same amount of Vitamin D as you get in June-August. So this means you have to “triple” your time to get the same amount. Also keep in mind that you have to expose “large amounts” of skin in order to be able to produce Vitamin D. (Just face and arms are not enough.)
    It is best to stay on any given amount of Vitamin D for 8 weeks, in order to know just what level that amount of Vitamin D will give you. (That would mean supplement or sunshine.)In your case you are relying on supplements and sunshine and are heading into the “triple your time” so I am not sure where you will end up in 6 more weeks. Just so we are clear even if you told me you were taking 20,000iu via supplements, there is still no way to predict. I would assume if you are mentioning “leaky gut” that you are having some kind of “health issues”. So that can/may even figure into how high your level goes or does not go in any period of time. If you actually have an inflammatory bowel disease, then just absorbing a Vitamin D supplement can be problematic. In this case an oral spray seems to work well.
    You said your magnesium equals 2200mg. First I hope it is a typo and that you meant 220. If not then check the area on the bottle that gives the “Actual supplement facts” on the back and see what it says. If actually 2200 then you are taking way too much, if 220 then it may be too little depending on how much you get in your diet.
    This is what “I think”. Vitamin D has a lot to do with gut health and that is a fact. Lack of it causes “dysregulation”. So it is “lack of Vitamin D” that starts and causes the cascade. So now we have a “new term or disease” called “leaky gut”. Some people then say that this leaky gut then can cause autoimmune disease. Well it may but the real reason to start was the lack of Vitamin D.
    Check this out at https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/27515213.
    If you have more questions just ask!

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  •  Stillwaters on

    I am retired and live in a clearing in the bush so I have complete privacy. When I go out at solar noon I expose about 90% of my skin to sunlight.

    I am taking Dr Mercola’s magnesium L-threonate which says for every 3-capsule serving, you receive a full 2,000 mg of Magtein™ Magnesium L-Threonate, including 144 mg of elemental magnesium. So I guess 144 mg is the right number but I also get 250 mg from my multivitamin for a total of 394 mg daily.
    I was diagnosed with ulcerative colitis 9 years ago and was doing well controlling symptoms with the specific carbohydrate diet (SCD) and low dose naltrexone (LDN). I went into a flare about 9 months ago and nothing seemed to get me out of it. Blood tests showed I had extreme hypothyroidism plus several other out of wack markers. This led me to believe I also have leaky gut. I started on “The Plant Paradox” protocol about 20 days ago and within 5 days the D stopped and I have been doing well and gaining weight ever since. Dr Gundry feels that to heal the villa on the wall of the intestine that 100 ng/ml should be the target. He is interviewed here:
    http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2017/08/10/gut-brain-bone-marrow-connection.aspx
    Don

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  •  IAW on

    I think you are doing everything correctly. I am glad you are feeling better.
    If you can get tested in another 6 weeks that would be good. That way you can make sure your level has increased even further. I would think by then it should be a lot higher. If you are not close to 100ng/ml, let me know. If you go over 100ng/ml don’t panic. Levels up to 150ng/ml are safe.
    Now Canada usually measures as nmol/l and I do not know how you personally are testing. I assume you already know about the difference between nmol/l and ng/ml and that the 62 is really measured as ng/ml. I have learned from past experience, with others, to make sure we are on the same page. So 100ng/ml OR 250nmol/l.

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  •  Stillwaters on

    Thanks for the help. Yes my actual last result was 155 nmol/l and I am aimimg for 250. Dr Gundry uses ng/ml.
    So you think 394 mg daily of magnesium is reasonable?

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  •  IAW on

    So the start of the “ulcerative colitis” was most likely low Vitamin D levels. For the hypothyroidism did they only check a TSH level or did they look for antibody levels? If you have Hashimoto’s which is causing your hypothyroidism, then that was also caused by low Vitamin D levels.
    As for the magnesium. Adult males may need a total of 800mg a day. So if you think your diet is covering at least another 200-400mg, then yes that should be enough unless the colitis is preventing a lot of absorption. The only other thing would be to go by symptoms.Although this is not an all encompassing list, Irritability or anxiety, Nausea, Headaches, Insomnia, Fatigue, Muscle cramps/twitching, Weakness and constipation can all be signs of low magnesium.

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