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Dr. Cannell, I'm Diego D'Urso, I'm writing from the south of Italy. My daughter – 2,5 years old- shows autism spectrum disorders. At the moment she's following a 15 h/week ABA therapy path (since past January and without any significant improvement). I know that the autism spectrum disorders have still not a wellknown antecedent and the Litterature analyzes AS disorders reffering them to few concurrent factors; so it seems to me that each individual is or can be different from the others; this pushes me to find an alternative and complementary treatment which can be particularly suited for my little child. I would like to ask which starting bloodtest parameters are to be analyzed (e.g. at least the vitamin D blood level) and which medical protocol is to be followed in order to assess and then implement the vitamin D supplementation. Sincerely your, Diego D'Urso

Asked by  ddurso16776400 on March 11, 2015

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  •  ddurso16776400 on

    See title

    Answered by  ddurso16776400 on
  •  IAW on

    Dear Diego,
    Sometimes Dr. Cannell is very busy so it may take him a little while to respond. So please be patient and keep checking back every few days, at least, for an answer.
    Does she take any Vitamin D and how much does she weigh?

    Answered by  IAW on
    •  John Cannell, MD on

      It all depends on the 25(OH)D level. 300 IU/KG/day is a good place to start but when you start getting the 25(OH)D, you will see that often more is needed, sometimes a lot more.

      Answered by  John Cannell, MD on
  •  ddurso16776400 on

    I’ll be patient.
    Thank you for the answear.
    She hasnt ever taken any vitamin until now. she’s 16 kg.
    Diego

    Answered by  ddurso16776400 on
  •  John Cannell, MD on

    Forget the blood test for now. Start her on 3,000 IU/day of vitamin D3.

    Answered by  John Cannell, MD on
    •  ddurso16776400 on

      Dott. Cannell,
      thank you for your attention.
      I ask for how many weeks the supplementation should be performed. Beste regards, dd

      Answered by  ddurso16776400 on
  •  John Cannell, MD on

    The child should be on at least 3,000 IU/day indefinitely. In 3 months have a vitamin D blood level done. Make sure she is taking enough vitamin D to have her blood level around 80 ng/ml or 200 nm/L. I have a book coming out shortly that you should read:

    http://www.sunriseriverpress.com/autism-causes-prevention-treatment.html

    Answered by  John Cannell, MD on
  •  bennardo on

    Hola se podría conseguir DR Cannel su libro traducido al español?
    Hello Can you get DR Cannel your book translated into Spanish?

    Thank you Anna

    Answered by  bennardo on
  •  bennardo on

    Hello DR Cannell:

    I have been giving my son D3 PLUS for several weeks, he has no diagnosis but autism traits, so in these weeks I have noticed many advances in my son especially when it comes to talking and relating, he says words that I never thought I knew. I give you 2 capsules of D3 plus 2500 ie to give you 5000 d3. He is 7 years old recently and weighs 20 kg, I have not yet made the vitamin D tests. I’m afraid of hypercalcemia and I do not know if those amounts are safe? Or should I give it more or less? I have read many blogs to go doing the guidelines. Do you think I’m on the right track? Thank you for everything, you give hope.

    Anna

    Answered by  bennardo on
    •  John Cannell, MD on

      Ana: He will not get hypercalcemia and you are on the right road.

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    •  bennardo on

      DR Cannell:
      Then I could give you 3 capsules a day of D3plus without problems to reach the 7500ie? I wonder if it’s a lot for magnesium, boron and zinc for him. At the moment I give only 2 capsules of D3plus in the morning in a yogurt. He is 7 years old and weighs 20 kg. He has really changed a lot, he asks for help with things and a lot of spontaneous language.
      Thanks for your attention

      • This reply was modified 2 months, 3 weeks ago by  bennardo.
      Answered by  bennardo on
    •  IAW on

      I would give him 2 capsules of D3 plus. Then hopefully you could add to that 2000 iu of just “plain” D3 and not D3 Plus. That will give you a total of 7000iu a day.

      Answered by  IAW on
    •  bennardo on

      2000iu from D3 from any particular brand that you recommend me? Thank you. I use D3plus recommended by Dr. Cannell. Spain

      • This reply was modified 2 months, 3 weeks ago by  bennardo.
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    •  IAW on

      The same company that makes the D3 Plus also has Vitamin D with 1000iu per capsule. This is Bio-Tech Pharmacal. Here is one supplier at https://www.greenvits.eu/collections/vitamin-d or perhaps however you are getting the D3 Plus may also have them also.

      Answered by  IAW on
    •  bennardo on

      So my daughter could easily take 1 capsule of D3plus to get the benefits of vitamin D? She is 5 years and 19 kg, because the brother takes his difficulties because it suits her. Thank you

      Answered by  bennardo on
    •  bennardo on

      So my daughter could take a D3plus capsule to get the benefits of vitamin D even if she does not have problems like my son? She is 5 years and 19 kg, because the brother takes on his problems. Thank you

      Answered by  bennardo on
    •  IAW on

      Yes, give her 1 (one) capsule of D3 Plus so she can stay healthy. We recommend 1000 iu for every 25lbs (12kg) of body weight to stay healthy. We recommend more when a child has issues such as your son.
      Bennardo do not forget yourself. Adults should take 5000 iu day to stay healthy.

      • This reply was modified 2 months, 3 weeks ago by  IAW.
      Answered by  IAW on
    •  bennardo on

      Thank you very much.

      anna

      Answered by  bennardo on
  •  John Cannell, MD on

    7500 IU/day for a 20 kg child is close to the doses used in the autism/vitamin D studies and the highest 25(OH)D in those two studies was 46 ng/ml. By all means get a 25(OH)D blood test every two or three months until you get his 25(OH)D to 80 ng/ml which is 200 nmol/L in the metric system.I am glad you are using D3Plus; it is the best vitamin D on the market. He needs magnesium, zinc, boron and vitamin K as well as D. I’m glad he has responded; remember get him to 80 ng/ml (200 nmol/L) and keep him there.

    Answered by  John Cannell, MD on
  •  bennardo on

    Good evening Dr Cannell:
    I have the results of the analyzes of my son with traits of autism although we do not know if he has autism the truth, only traits like flutters and evadirse and problems of language learning and has obtained in analytic 85ng in his vitamin D, I was able to do it before since February taking D3 5000 and K2 100mcg but in June I started with D3plus and you take 2 capsules 2500 iu and its supplements q take in those capsules magnesium, boron, K2 and zink … Tb takes 2 capsules of 1000iu to reach 7000iu daily of vitamin D3. As it is in 85ng of vitamin d3 q do I still keep 7000? or low quantity? I see small changes as more relaxed, learning more, something less than fluttering. I am doing genetic analysis of gluten in case that could be affecting tb in its concentration. If I had no autism trait at the end and it was another diagnosis, and I kept going up to 100ng, is vitamin D3 a problem for him? Can a healthy person be within that 100ng limit? I`m from April rose from 27ng to 45ng and I will continue until 80 or 100 no? Thank you

    • This reply was modified 1 month, 2 weeks ago by  bennardo.
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    •  IAW on

      Dear Anna
      It is a holiday weekend here in the USA and I do not think I can contact Dr. Cannell until September 5 or 6th. So until we can talk to him again, keep giving him 7000 iu. I am glad you have seen some improvement!
      Anna has his weight changed at all? At this point I do not know if Dr. Cannell will recommend a higher amount of Vitamin D or to just keep him at this level and “with time” there will be more gradual improvement.
      Any level between 50 and 100ng/ml is “healthy” and safe. Levels as high as 150ng/ml are also safe.
      You said “I`m from April rose from 27ng to 45ng and I will continue until 80 or 100 no?” This means you, Anna? How much Vitamin D are you taking and do you have any health issues?

      Answered by  IAW on
  •  bennardo on

    good night:
    Ok then I hope that Dr. Cannell sees the message and I keep with D3 plus 7000iu my son because the beach is over and he stops sunbathing. Who do you mean by taking weight? to my son or me?
    I have no disease but with my son, I did the vitamin D tests too and I was in 27 and now I am 45ng in several months of taking it. I take two of D3 plus 5000iu and 1 capsule of 5000 iu, in total 10000iu daily.
    Thank you.

    • This reply was modified 1 month, 2 weeks ago by  bennardo.
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  •  IAW on

    On July 26th you said your son weighs 20kg. Does he still weigh this amount or has he gained any weight? It has only been a month but I thought I would just check. As your children grow and gain weight, then you will have to increase Vitamin D amounts so they will still maintain the same levels.
    If you Anna are “healthy” then you can continue to take the 10,000 iu a day and maintain a level of 45ng/ml. We recommend 50ng/ml but you are close. You do not have to be 80-100. If you want to be a little higher you could take 12,000 iu a day OR three days a week take 15,000iu and the other 4 days take 10,000iu.
    For someone like your son, they need to be treated with higher amounts and maintain higher levels.
    I will make sure the doctor sees your post.

    Answered by  IAW on
  •  bennardo on

    good morning Iaw:
    Ah okay. Well, the weight is the same. It weighs 20 kg although it is a little higher. He is very tall and thin lol
    Thank you

    Answered by  bennardo on
  •  IAW on

    Anna I tried to contact Dr. Cannell twice.
    So do not give your son any less than 7000iu. I think you should raise it to 8000iu since his last blood test has “sunshine” in the figure also.
    You asked “If I kept going up to 100ng, is vitamin D3 a problem for him? The answer is “NO” it is not a problem. Some people have “natural levels” (only from sunshine) that are that high. Science has also determined that levels up to 150ng/ml are safe. Whether or not your son will react even better at a higher Vitamin D level like 100ng/ml, I cannot say.
    If you have more questions, just ask!

    Answered by  IAW on

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