around 5 weeks ago I had my blood level of vitamin D tested by my Dr (at Kaiser Permanente) 25 OH test results were 57ng/ml . I was taking 2000 iu with about 900 mg of calcium. Based on what I heard were the results of testing the blood levels of a group of modern hunter gatherers (80 to 100 ng/ml), I decided I wanted to increase my blood level. I upped my dosage to 9000 iu of D3 without increasing my calcium intake. I also started to take some K3 and magnesium at the same time. I just got my test results back from an update blood level test. It showed that I went from 57 to 56 ng/ml. Sun exposure the same (almost non existent) and all other diet factors unchanged. I stick fairly closely to the Mind Diet.

Asked by  robertjmjrs38499500 on November 11, 2015

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  • robertjmjrs38499500
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    See title

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  • IAW
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    I assume the question is why didn’t your levels increase?
    Do you have any diseases or conditions? Are you taking the Vitamin D with a meal that has fat in it so the Vitamin D will absorb better? Are you using the same Vitamin D as the 2000iu but just increased the amount or are you using a different kind? I also assume you mean K2 and nor K3. How much and what king of magnesium do you take?

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  • robertjmjrs38499500
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    I always take it with 2 capsules of fish oil.

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  • robertjmjrs38499500
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    I do mean K2 and the magnesium is 250 mg magnesium oxide, magnesium citrate, and magnesium ascorbate. i did have my magnesium levels measured before I started by Kaiser, and it was a little above the mid point in their normal range.

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  • IAW
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    You did not say if you changed manufacturer’s of the D or if you have any diseases or conditions. So I will assume “no” to both. If it was a standard magnesium test, I would not rely on those results to determine if you are sufficient. A RBC magnesium test is better and results should be close to the upper end. So you could double your magnesium and see if that will change your Vitamin D levels but there is nothing to prove that it will. Is there any chance Kaiser’s result’s are not correct. I find it odd that you could have a level of 57ng/ml on just 2000iu and that taking a lot more did not change your levels.
    Your level is acceptable as is but you could try the following:
    Dr Cannel once said the following “If you are one of those people whose vitamin D levels will not go above 40 ng/ml, even on 10,000 units per day, and you won’t use sunlight or sunbeds, just keep increasing the dose up to 20,000 IU per day. If that does not work, buy some coconut oil on the internet and add the contents of two 5,000 IU capsules of vitamin D to a tablespoon of coconut oil. Mix it well and then rub it into your skin every day, and see if that raises your vitamin D level.”
    Another member once made this comment “I normally recommend drops as they are the cheapest by a mile here in Ireland. I religiously check the blood levels after two months. About 20% of my clients have a poor response to the drops. When this happens I switch them to a sublingual spray which very quickly gets their levels up. It is a pity they did not test this dosage form.John Doran. Pharmacist, Naturopath, Herbalist.”

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  • robertjmjrs38499500
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    Is the25 OH test sensitive to how much calcium I take. There was a recent article about high calcium levels and heart problems, so every other time I have been taking a half of a calcium tablet instead of a whole one. The whole calcium tablet is 600 mg and when Imtake addl magnesium is is 500 mgcalcium with it. I am 70 yrs old in good health, BP 120, blood sugar running a little high. I drink a half a cup of skim mild daily and some cheese occasionally. Should I take more calcium?

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  • IAW
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    No as far as I know the 25OHD is not sensitive to calcium. No I do not think you need more calcium. What is really important is to get enough K1 and K2 which helps direct calcium to your bones and not arteries.

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