Asked by shopaula12485600 on March 17, 2016
IAW on March 17, 2016 at 12:04 pm
No you are not taking enough! According to the internet, correct me if I am wrong, your 13 is measured as nmol/l(?) and that equals 5ng/ml. You are very deficient. Do you have any other health issues besides sinus issues?
We recommend 5000iu everyday basically forever. This is based on a 150lb person and they should reach our goal of 50ng/ml. If you weight more you will need more.
Now if I am correct above, you are very deficient. You should be taking more than 5000iu until your levels have increased, then a maintenance dosage of 5000iu will probably be fine.
So could you confirm the measurement as nmol/l or ng/ml and do you have other health issues?Answered by IAW on March 17, 2016 at 12:04 pm
shopaula12485600 on March 17, 2016 at 7:06 pm
I’m a mess.. vertigo, digestion problems, fatigue, insomnia, cold all the time, just to name a few… my brain fog has been getting worse this week… and headaches have been bad also.. Been having a horrible time at work trying to concentrate… it’s been a bad week this week…sore muscles, it’s been damp here the last couple of days, I’m sure that’s not helping…Answered by shopaula12485600 on March 17, 2016 at 7:06 pm
IAW on March 18, 2016 at 4:04 am
I am so sorry you feel so bad!
If you weigh a lot more than 150lbs please let me know. If you weigh more you will have to take more Vitamin D.
You will need to take at least 10,000iu of D3 a day for a couple of months maybe for even longer. After that you will need a maintenance dose of 5000iu a day forever. We recommend reaching and maintaining a minimum blood level of 50ng/ml which equals 125nmol/l. (Cancer risks increase at levels below 40ng/ml (100nmol/l).
If you do not feel any better after a week or two of the 10,000iu a day, let me know! Vitamin D should only make you feel better, so if you have any problems,write back!
You should read http://www.vitamindcouncil.org/about-vitamin-d/vitamin-d-and-other-vitamins-and-minerals/. If you have a magnesium deficiency and take Vitamin D, it might cause symptoms. If it does then you will need to supplement. (Do not get Oxide if you need a supplement.)
You also do not have to split your Vitamin D dosage but you can if you want. Make sure you take it with food (some fat in it) so it will absorb better. If you have intestinal issues and absorption may be an issue, there are sprays, so keep that in mind.
It’s very hard to get enough Vitamin D at your latitude. You actually cannot make any from Nov to Feb and June to August are your only really good months.Answered by IAW on March 18, 2016 at 4:04 am
shopaula12485600 on March 18, 2016 at 9:04 am
My weight has been all over the place too… Right now I my weight is at 187lbs…
I reading up on Magnesium and Calcium. My calcium has 250 mg and Magnesium 50 mg, take two of those a day… My Multi Vitamin has Calcium 250 mg and Magnesium 200 mg .. two a day also.
Seriously thinking of using a tanning bed next winter… even if it’s for a few minutes a week. We can go days without seeing sunshine… it’s horrible… I live outside in the summer, love playing in the dirt… my doctor figures that is why I didn’t have any signs until November…. I just want to feel normal again.. I think of all the sign, I wish they would have found this earlier.. all the drugs that they had me on.. I’m thankful my doctor did a blood work up… or I would still not know what was happening to me…Answered by shopaula12485600 on March 18, 2016 at 9:04 am
IAW on March 18, 2016 at 11:16 am
Even at your present weight, I would still take the 10,000u for two weeks, then let me know how you feel. (If not making much progress by then you may want to take 15,000iu.a day.) If you stay around that weight, you may need more like 6000iu as a maintenance dosage. You may find once your D levels are higher, that you may be able to lose weight fairly easy.
Make sure the tanning bed actually has the bulbs that make the correct wavelength to make Vitamin D.Answered by IAW on March 18, 2016 at 11:16 am
shopaula12485600 on March 18, 2016 at 1:52 pm
Thanks IAW… will let you know how I’m feeling… sun actually came out today, went and sat outside for a hour, it’s still cold here, but I felt a little better afterward. Today has been a real struggle, have never been this weak and tired. I did start taking 10 000 this morning, so hopefully it won’t take long to kick in.Answered by shopaula12485600 on March 18, 2016 at 1:52 pm
shopaula12485600 on March 23, 2016 at 6:24 pm
Picked up a Magnesium supplement … it’s says it’s oxide, gluconate, lactate… it’s the only one I could find at the drugstore.. is this one okay?? The health food store was closed, and I couldn’t remember what was said about the oxide….should have written it down, brain fog was bad this week…Answered by shopaula12485600 on March 23, 2016 at 6:24 pm
IAW on March 23, 2016 at 6:51 pm
,If you are unsure if your diet includes enough K1 and K2, then you could supplement more. If we all had perfect diets we probably would not need to supplement anything. It is a little harder for people to get enough magnesium in their diets and therefore are usually deficient. The magnesium you got is OK but the Oxide is just not the best absorbed into ones system.Answered by IAW on March 23, 2016 at 6:51 pm
shopaula12485600 on April 4, 2016 at 6:40 pm
So it’s been over 2 weeks, not much change… My Vertigo has been really bad the last week, I missed work a couple of days, and had to cancel a couple of personal things… but the weather went from wonderful, to snow storms.. I’m thinking this is also effecting my vertigo… which hasn’t been this bad since Christmas… Driving has become almost impossible, and I just have to take everything one day at a time… I’m starting to get really frustrated, and when the vertigo acts up.. so does the anxiety… and I really want to see spring… not more friggin snow!! Joys of living in Canada…..lolAnswered by shopaula12485600 on April 4, 2016 at 6:40 pm
IAW on April 5, 2016 at 5:15 am
So we are going to back up a minute so I can explain something. In my opinion it is much better to treat a Vitamin D deficiency to its fullest, until you go looking for other causes for your symptoms. So in this short amount of time, this has not been done. Having said this, you told “nkamdar” above that you were tested for thyroid issues and are fine. Unfortunately this may not be true. They probably did one test, TSH test, and if you could get those results and let me know what they were. (Even this one test is sometimes not enough, there are more they can do.)
Back to the Vitamin D.You are very deficient. So we know the “official” safe upper limit to take a day is 10,000iu. We also know that you would have to take 40,000iu per day for months till you “may” become intoxicated. So my suggestion is that you take more! (15,000-20,000iu) I hope you understand I am not a doctor or scientist. (I can show you a study where they used 35,000iu a day for 6 months and a doctor in South America is using upwards of 40,000iu per day to treat MS patients.) The thing about Vitamin D is that you need more “upfront” when you are deficient and less later. .Answered by IAW on April 5, 2016 at 5:15 am
shopaula12485600 on April 6, 2016 at 5:11 pm
The main reason for the blood test was to check my Thyroid, but my Doctor wants to recheck it when she does my D in two months…just to make sure…
I am sleeping better and my digestion is also improving… it’s the vertigo that is the worst right now…. and the panic attack seem to be apart of the vertigo….and the brain fog is getting better also….
The weather isn’t helping, I’m sure… We are going from beautiful spring days, to snow storms, to rain, and back to snow storms again. I live a block away from Lake Huron, so it’s damp here this time a year anyway… it’s just been more so the last couple of weeks….
I’ve been doing a lot of reading and surfing.. I bought Liquid D3 from the health store today, I was in to talk to the wonderful Ladies there… (the owner is from the UK, and has been here herself… she just told me to Hang in there Luv.. really nice woman)… might me more effective instead of the pills and start doing 15 000/a day.. see how that goes…
Baby steps… if I could get some sunshine…. the weather isn’t helping my mood either… and I’ve been so stiff and sore…thank goodness for my soaker tub…lol.. it’s been a god send the last month.
I’m just being impatient, I’m sure… I was hoping to feel more energy, it comes and goes… just have to listen to my body more… and stop feeling like I’m being lazy….I’ve just always been go, go, go.. and it’s driving me nuts to feel so sluggish all the time…
Forgot to check the health store for Vitamin K…. which is why I went in there to begin with… I’ll have to go tomorrow again before work… see what I can find. Think I’m just feeling sorry for myself….lol
Thanks IAW… will let you know how it goes…Answered by shopaula12485600 on April 6, 2016 at 5:11 pm
shopaula12485600 on April 6, 2016 at 5:45 pm
Here’s what I’m taking a day.
10 000 IU Vitamin D.. on it’s own
Between my Multi and Calcium…
400 IU D
325 mg Magnesium
800 mg Calcium
I bought the wrong Multi Vitamin… got the Prenatal one this round.. (damn labels are almost identical).. there is no Vitamin K in this one… and I’m 1/2 way through the bottle…
250 mg Magnesium on it’s own.
So Grand totals
D 10 400
Magnesium 575 mg
Calcium 800 mg
K nothingAnswered by shopaula12485600 on April 6, 2016 at 5:45 pm
shopaula12485600 on April 7, 2016 at 7:15 pm
I’m blaming that one on a total brain fart.. which I have been having a lot lately…
got some vitamin K today… and a magnesium they recommended at the health store.. and a few other items (didn’t know they sold jewelry…lol).. They were quite happy with my little purchases today… I’m sure.. I’m on their customer list… and if I get so many points….lol.. free jewelry (or Vitamin D, or nice shinning new silver ring…)
It’s been a month today I was diagnosed… hopefully I’m on the right track….Answered by shopaula12485600 on April 7, 2016 at 7:15 pm
shopaula12485600 on May 6, 2016 at 5:20 am
Just wanted to touch base….
Feeling better, still taking 10 000/day. Symptoms are still there, just not as severe… muscle aches and tired if I overdue it some days.
My Sinuses are driving me nuts… but it is allergy season here right now… the sunshine has been wonderful.
Been under a ton of stress this week, family matter that is totally out of control, so some symptoms have been a little more this week, insomnia, but that could be due to the stress… haven’t had to use a sleeping aid for awhile, but I did this week… again could just be the stress…
Going back to the doctors on May 26 to be retested… will post my levels when I find them out….Answered by shopaula12485600 on May 6, 2016 at 5:20 am
IAW on May 6, 2016 at 6:54 am
Through personal experience (sorry no study I can quote), if I am severely “stressed”, I have to take more Vitamin D and I take quite a lot on a daily basis. So since you are already deficient you may want to take the 15,000 until the stress is over or died down quite a bit.
If you can talk the doctor into the following tests a Thyroid peroxidase antibody (TPO) and Thyroglobulin antibody (TGAb), that might be a good thing to do unless they did it the first time around.
As for allergies, Vitamin D can also help with that too. I just had another Canadian update me the other day and he said:
“I had allergies back in March due to snow mold, but that went away after a few days. I’ve had miserable seasonal spring allergies every year. This year? No spring allergies, even though the local weather says that pollen is in the air. I can’t believe it, but I can’t confirm it 100% since it’s been a bit more unusually cold lately. So I have to wait at least two more weeks to see if I’ll get any allergies. But at this time of the year, I wouldn’t be able to survive without antihistamines.” (I never heard of “snow mold” and had to look it up.)
I also usually tell people that even if your level has increased or might be at our recommended level, does not necessarily mean you should decrease your amount taken yet or that all of your symptoms will be gone.
So let me know what happens.Answered by IAW on May 6, 2016 at 6:54 am
shopaula12485600 on June 6, 2016 at 9:26 am
Hi IAW… got my 3 month check… my level is at 59 mg!!!!!! I’m so happy… was taking 10 000, wonder if should drop to 5000IU/day. I’ve also been getting out in the Sun…. would like to have my level at around 70-75… any suggestions???Answered by shopaula12485600 on June 6, 2016 at 9:26 am
IAW on June 6, 2016 at 9:49 am
First of all you “sound” better??? If you wouldn’t mind go back up to the top and read your initial response back to me and tell me if you still have any of those symptoms?
I am very glad your level has increased. Just a gentle reminder “We recommend reaching and maintaining a minimum blood level of 50ng/ml which equals 125nmol/l” Now you put 59 “mg”? So you are either at 59ng/ml OR 23nmol/l. There is a big difference and depending on which one you get a different answer from me. (I’m pretty sure Canada measures as nmol/l but you never know when someone might change that. So let me know.Answered by IAW on June 6, 2016 at 9:49 am